Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IS.AIR.PSGR?locations=CN
    [2] https://www.iata.org/pressroom/pr/Documents/TopTenPaxMarkets_graph.pdf
    [3] https://www.scmp.com/news/world/russia-central-asia/article/3024610/you-can-buy-russias-putin-pitches-su-57-stealth-jets
    [4] https://skift.com/2019/01/08/boeing-edges-airbus-to-stay-worlds-biggest-commercial-aircraft-manufacturer/
    [5] https://s2.q4cdn.com/661678649/files/doc_financials/annual/2019/Boeing-2018AR-Final.pdf
    [6] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/04/boeing-stock-all-time-high-on-china-demand-production-acceleration.html
    [7] https://graphics.reuters.com/ETHIOPIA-AIRPLANE/010091341G7/index.html
    [8] https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/breaking-news/283437/what-routes-does-the-boeing-737-max-8-fly/
    [9] https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/09/airbus--china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufa.html
    [10] https://www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
    [11] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/business/china-boeing.html
    [12] https://www.apnews.com/88d5235d2107400680d8b0870d30d218
    [13] https://www.marketplace.org/2019/02/11/ceo-americas-biggest-exporter-manufacturing-america-doing-business/
    [14] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-25/airbus-is-said-to-seal-long-awaited-aircraft-order-from-china
    [15] https://www.mhi.com/news/story/190625.html
    [16] https://ukranews.com/en/news/612803-antonov-planning-to-resume-production-of-an-148-an-158-and-an-178-planes-in-2019
    [17] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/china-comac-919-new-plane-ryanair/

Comments • 3 073

  • Geo Jeff
    Geo Jeff  25 less than a minute back

    China never cares about safety. China shut these planes down because of the trade war.
    No free country on earth should be doing business with any communists.
    This will come back to haunt the entire world soon.

    • Anna Castro
      Anna Castro  2 hours back

      Your voice from 2016 is very different dude

      • Truth BeTold
        Truth BeTold  4 hours back

        Boeing and airbus will be put out of business in China by China's own.

        • WhalesTasteGreat
          WhalesTasteGreat  4 hours back

          lol at China being a leader in aviation regulation. How ridiculously absurd.
          I worked on some of the 737 NextGens that Southwest traded for, from Chinese Eastern Air, in order to meet Boeing's weird contract rules. They were the worst aircraft I've ever witnessed, and certainly not flightworthy at time of receipt.
          Thousands of man hours were poured into each one to bring them back up to US / FAA standards... or any common sense standards. Pretty much all ACOs and ADs were stopped the minute they were handed off to Chinese entities... no maintenance had been done at all.

          Some of the most noteworthy things I saw:
          - Rats, not American rats either. One aircraft was infested with rats that had been living there for some unknown time. Everything had to be stripped because there was feces all over the electronics bay.

          - Broken human waste lines. Waste from the forward lavatory runs down into the Electronics bay. The lines on one aircraft had broken seals and there was literally human shit juice all over the entire bay. Again, nobody knows how long this was going on. There is no maintenance tracking or records keeping in China, evidently.

          - A 1" hole in the cockpit floor that appears to have been done by a soldering iron or heat gun. that somebody forgot about They installed the copilot seat over it and called it good. Bear in mind, the space underneath is not pressurized.

          - An entire screw driver set left in the nose wheel well. There's some Junction boxes and windows to access pass-throughs for cabling up to the cockpit on the sides. In one of these, I found an entire screw driver set.
          Finding tools in general was very common, but an entire screw driver set in a location where they could easily get stuck in wheel mechanism and/or junction box is shocking. I guess Chinese electricians use these wooden deals with a hole through it to run wire... found them all over the place. Wish I had kept some.

          - There's a cable pass-through under the copilot's yoke with 2 bundles that pass under the center counsel over to pilot's side. Inside the pass through are 2 cable clamps. The Chinese had installed something and ran 3 wires under there without putting them in the cable clamps, or at least securing them away from the screws that hold those clamps down. On one of those lines, the screw had already ate through the insulation and was starting on the second. Who knows what happens when you short those wires to ground or eachother. Took me 2 hours to undo their work, and 10 minutes to do it right.

          - So on big aircraft like a 737, the flaps may not move uniformly. They can be adjusted to ensure they do, but apparently not in China. There are "skew sensors" to let the pilot knows things are not correct... really nothing more than a magnet. In any case, a bird came arrived its maiden delivery flight from China and pilot reported exactly that. Investigated, and discovered that not only was the skew sensor wired incorrectly, but there was a pushed pin on the fuselage side harness connection. It's hard to imagine all that happened immediately before China handed the a/c off to Southwest.


          ... and on and on and on ...

          • jim morris
            jim morris  5 hours back

            No sales in China no future for Boeing

            • Steven Black
              Steven Black  6 hours back

              The current news is that Beoing is discontinuing the A380 Airbus lines,because of (1)It's just too large for most Airports, (2)Too costly in Fueling, (3)A severe lack of passenger's and transport space,and just isn't bringing in enough financial profits to actually keep it in service consistantly along with daily maintenance's.
              But people are very satisfied with the A380 Airbus itself as it handle's Air Turbalance perfectly and has plenty of space and has never once crashed since being in service, as the only remaining excuses are it's just entirely too big and costly for the company itself presently-so I guess we'll just have to actually wait and see how they fully intend to compete with China and serve it's many clients sufficiently in the coming years.

              • bert wesler
                bert wesler  12 hours back

                And all of this report depends on the long-term viability of China's economy and I'm going to be buying any airplanes pretty soon they're going to be flat busted broke crashed to the ground and gone CCP dead.

                • Chavdar Naidenov
                  Chavdar Naidenov  12 hours back

                  Boeing creates civilian planes on the same frames it developed for military planes. So Boeing shareholders get dividends both ways - from military planes that threaten China and passenger planes that China buys. And they think the Chinese are stupid and will go on doing this?

                  • Narek Avetisyan
                    Narek Avetisyan  13 hours back

                    Seems like Being is facing... a maximum problem.
                    Thank you, thank you. I'll see myself out now.

                    • Truth BeTold
                      Truth BeTold  16 hours back

                      If China does not realize they must alter their trade practices their economy will collapse and the travelers will decline sharply.

                      • Bi'er ShenShan
                        Bi'er ShenShan  18 hours back

                        Amigo, In your highlighting of the China map... you left TAIWAN out of it. How would you feel if the USA map was left out without Texas? :-) Please CORRECT your mistake.

                        • Omar KHODARY
                          Omar KHODARY  20 hours back

                          This information is completely wrong on video I recommend for you looking where get this Source of information. It was known Chinese’s airlines have large number of Boeing Fleets because cargo and trade exchange.

                          • Euro Public Transport
                            Euro Public Transport  1 days back

                            Dear Sam,
                            can you please do a video about the geographic problem of Iran?

                            • Paul von Hindenburg
                              Paul von Hindenburg  1 days back

                              They don't care about jobs they wanted to pander to the dictatorship.

                              • JEOGRAPHY Songs For Kids

                                Still a better channel than Bendover Productions.

                                • Enter Fil
                                  Enter Fil  2 days back

                                  It’s so sad that Embraer was bought by Boeing, Brazil is selling all of its companies

                                  • pagansforbreakfast
                                    pagansforbreakfast  2 days back

                                    Let the computer fly the plane, what could go wrong? Until full command of the aircraft is returned to the flightcrew I'm staying on the ground.

                                    • autohmae
                                      autohmae  11 hours back

                                      When did you last fly ?

                                  • HerrBratwurst
                                    HerrBratwurst  2 days back

                                    Every time I see a video about People saying things about China’s issue with the outside world, it tells me they don’t know China’s main priority.

                                    China’s number 1 priority are it’s people. That’s why they spend so much money building up cities. That’s why they always insists on companies bringing jobs into China, when you have 2billion mouths to feed, this is the only way.

                                    Also, it appeases the people, so they do not go on strikes, making the country unproductive. Which affects other normal people, and when the mob grows bigger, the communist party falls. That’s the real China problem.

                                    You wanna be really cool friends with a Xi Jin Ping?
                                    Create a lot of jobs in China. He’ll be your number one Friend if you can bring in billions of jobs for China.

                                    • HerrBratwurst
                                      HerrBratwurst  3 hours back

                                      @WhalesTasteGreat Foxconn is a Taiwanese company if you don't know that already. And yes, it's an oligarchy that wants to stay in power, which government don't want to stay in power? At least they care about the country more than many other so called Democracies.

                                    • WhalesTasteGreat
                                      WhalesTasteGreat  4 hours back

                                      I doubt the workers at Foxconn would agree with that sentiment.
                                      China is run by an oligarchy that values itself retaining power.
                                      Not that US is any better, just a different sort of oligarchy and fake "democracy".

                                    • HerrBratwurst
                                      HerrBratwurst  4 hours back

                                      @[] you know, when you wanna say something like this you gotta show proofs.

                                    • HerrBratwurst
                                      HerrBratwurst  4 hours back

                                      @ben littlefair well I kind of rounded up about 300million people lol

                                    • []
                                      []  8 hours back

                                      Yeah except for them genociding the uighirs

                                  • SH W
                                    SH W  2 days back

                                    How is Boeing or Airbus going to send their planes to China? Fly them?

                                    • Qinghui Ou
                                      Qinghui Ou  2 days back

                                      correction: Boeing did collaborate with comac but set a very high price that china decided to do the long way.

                                      • Qinghui Ou
                                        Qinghui Ou  2 days back

                                        the number will drop in the future since china had started developing their own plane already check out C919, economic war will eventually end just not in this century.

                                        • Andrew McKay
                                          Andrew McKay  2 days back

                                          The Americans can't even build a plan anymore with out a China man involved. They will clone a Boeing and build their own

                                          • ACADMan
                                            ACADMan  2 days back

                                            Mmm...Nah. I'm not overly concerned- Yet. Will keep an eye on the new effort at Chinese aircraft production, though. Give them another 15 years, and call me back.

                                            • Better With Rum
                                              Better With Rum  2 days back

                                              Just because China grounded the 737 first doesn't lend to their credibility. I will NEVER get on a Chinese produced plain.

                                              • A320 CAT3DUAL
                                                A320 CAT3DUAL  2 days back

                                                Simple. GE must cease selling aircraft engines and spares to China.

                                                See? Easy! NEXT!

                                                • autohmae
                                                  autohmae  11 hours back

                                                  Might work long term, al though I suspect they will then buy European (maybe Russian?) instead then the following decade China makes aircraft engines.

                                              • Francisco Neto
                                                Francisco Neto  2 days back

                                                USA 🇺🇸 needs to fire 🔥 trump today,otherwise the United States 🇺🇸 will lose it’s ground in world’s economies. Trump is the distraction of America

                                                • Francisco Neto
                                                  Francisco Neto  2 days back

                                                  Time to disrupt CHINAS economy

                                                  • 罗浩钤
                                                    罗浩钤  2 days back

                                                    I fly 737max once before, left wing starts to over shake after 30 minutes took off, literally worst plane i tried, i miss my DA42 after that

                                                    • WhalesTasteGreat
                                                      WhalesTasteGreat  4 hours back

                                                      Who wouldn't?
                                                      That's like comparing a semi to a sports car.

                                                  • Mark Fischer
                                                    Mark Fischer  2 days back

                                                    China's Boeing problem. With a huge fleet of Boeing aircraft, China faces the prospect that if the split between the United States and China becomes heated and rancorous enough, the US government could cut China off from spare parts, service updates, and everything else needed from the manufacturer to sustain after sales support. China's fleet of Boeing aircraft could become a total loss.

                                                    • anthony chan
                                                      anthony chan  2 days back

                                                      China should not buy anything from the US at all the way trump treated Huawei and China companies. The END trump will be a BIG LOSER. Time will tell.

                                                      • derek96720
                                                        derek96720  1 days back

                                                        Considering Chinese companies constantly steal the intellectual property of anyone they work with, Trump has been lenient with China.

                                                    • Sven Reuser
                                                      Sven Reuser  2 days back

                                                      sees united states and china, but than continents.
                                                      countries in those continents: am i a joke to you?

                                                      • MaddBuddah
                                                        MaddBuddah  2 days back

                                                        I'm pooping

                                                        • Anand kumar
                                                          Anand kumar  2 days back

                                                          Who has guts to sit in China made airplanes and fly, There is no guarantee that they come back alive.....

                                                          • Kreuzritter Gottes
                                                            Kreuzritter Gottes  2 days back

                                                            china is garbage. Tawain forever!

                                                            • Mike Marley
                                                              Mike Marley  2 days back

                                                              Beware the chinaman ,they want to eat every living thing on our planet and every dead thing also.Serpents disguised as worms.

                                                              • joey saladass
                                                                joey saladass  2 days back

                                                                Lul china plane lol

                                                                • peter yuan
                                                                  peter yuan  3 days back

                                                                  I think China had purposely sabotage the two 737 MAX to make Boeing look bad.

                                                                  • Ming Hu
                                                                    Ming Hu  3 days back

                                                                    Ban Boeing in China to Make America Great Again

                                                                    • Laura O'Chamney
                                                                      Laura O'Chamney  3 days back

                                                                      Nah, Chinese made aircrafts are the worst. They're noisy, unreliable and unsafe. Similarly, other countries like Russia have built their own planes, but they have gone nowhere. Despite some accidents here and there, Boeing aircrafts are still the safest on the planet. According to the latest reports, the average person living in the United States has a 1 in 102 chance of dying in a car crash, compared to a 1 in 205,552 chance of dying as a passenger on an airplane.

                                                                      • goodboy2222
                                                                        goodboy2222  3 days back

                                                                        帝国主义亡我之心不死,所有一切都是围绕颜色革命,颠覆政权为目的,关心你的民主?自由,完全是胡扯!

                                                                        • 崔鱼
                                                                          崔鱼  3 days back

                                                                          You forget taiwan province

                                                                          • Yunfei Liang
                                                                            Yunfei Liang  3 days back

                                                                            *PolyMatter files Copyright Claim*

                                                                            • Christos Perchanidis
                                                                              Christos Perchanidis  3 days back

                                                                              You should also mentioned that Russia and China develop jointly a new plane (that Comac one)

                                                                              • cnccarving
                                                                                cnccarving  3 days back

                                                                                mightbe it sounds bad that boeing has to lower price, but same time it will be cheaper thna airbus

                                                                                then, if same price makes 10 boeing plane versus 6-7 airbus plane then boeing can slice way bigger from the chinese market

                                                                                • cnccarving
                                                                                  cnccarving  3 days back

                                                                                  on the end china will start their own airplane production

                                                                                  • Tomato Madness
                                                                                    Tomato Madness  3 days back

                                                                                    If I would fly 1000hrs non stop, I'll only do it with A320. lol!

                                                                                    • bert
                                                                                      bert  3 days back

                                                                                      Mainstream education is not an actual representative of a true understanding of reality, it is the biggest mind control church ever, with a very sophisticated compartmentalised traumatised fractured psychological fear based control system and that doesn't need you're belief, try telling the government that you promise not to break any laws and you no longer need to pay tax and you could ask how can they tell you what to do if they work for you, with an educated and entertained understanding of freedom you now in the land of make believe, it is as they say time to wake up, now don't think I'm telling you this because of compassion most of you are to childish to care with poorly maintained minds that will now act in according to you're programming brainwashing education call it what you're comfortable with

                                                                                      • Moosey1789
                                                                                        Moosey1789  3 days back

                                                                                        The trade war will pass? Quite a crystal ball you have there